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4[Optional] Registration for a social security number via DPAE

If it is your first job in France, your employer may choose to register you for a social security number during the DPAE process (described in chapter 3).

However, this is optional. For all intents and purposes, it makes little difference to you either way, because even if your employer were to obtain an NSS on your behalf, you would still not be eligible for social security or public health care benefits due to the temporary nature of the working holiday category.

Steps for your employer

When they are doing the DPAE, your employer can create a numĂŠro technique temporaire for you that is valid for 3 months. During this period, they should then apply for a permanent social security number through URSSAF.

Large companies are likely to be familiar with this process, but if a small or medium business asks you to apply for a social security number yourself, know that your application will likely be automatically rejected by CPAM.

If you come across a stubborn and uninformed employer who is asking you to do the impossible, then unfortunately you may need to just cut your losses and move on to the next. Reasonable employers absolutely exist, so don’t dwell for too long on difficult ones.

Learn more at: Les règles d’identification et d’immatriculation des assurés par les organismes sociaux.

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(22) Comments

melosm I |

thanks so much for this article! you mention that we can also freelance–for example, a consultancy contract. Would this mean we have to register as an auto-entrepreneur? Are we eligible to register as an auto-entrepreneur with a PVT? Thank you 🙂

Jackson I |

Hi melosm. Yes you can check out this other guide https://pvtistes.net/en/dossiers/france-freelancer-guide/

melosm I |

Thank you, sorry I completely missed this!

Allyssa I |

Jackson, I just want to say bless your soul! Thank you for this website and all the knowledge it has! So so helpful. Thank you!!

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Alireza I |

Thank you for the clarification! I’ve arrived on WHV and have recently gotten a CDI. My employer is asking for CPAM. Can you please help me understand:

1. What is CPAM & how do I apply for it?
2. As Canadian citizen on WHV, how do I get Carte Vitale?
3. Is Carte Vitale the only thing I need to show proof of residency?
4. Where do I go to do all this? 😅

Thank you!

Jackson I |

Hi Alireza. CPAM is the service that issues social security numbers and processes applications to public health care. WHV holders do not require a social security number to start working legally. If you’re in year 2 with an APS, you MIGHT be able to apply for one and then apply for a carte vitale. However, none of this is requirement to work in France. Your employer probably is just not familiar with the WHV. See chapter 2 for more details.

Alireza I |

Thank you for the quick reply!!

Without CPAM, how would I be able to take advantage of the insurance my employer is paying for? They’ve sent me an Allianz contract to sign, would I be able to use this?

Or do I have to get my own travel insurance which wouldn’t be ideal.

Jackson I |

1) As a working holiday maker, you already were required to purchase private health insurance as a part of your application. So normally you already have one.
2) The thing that employers offer is a supplementary insurance called “la mutuelle”. This is meant to cover the 30% not covered by public french health insurance (which covers up to 70%). Since you don’t have access to public french health insurance, you wouldn’t be able to make use of the mutuelle anyway. Employers are obligated to offer it, but you’re not obligated to take it.

niloo1890 I |

Hi Jackson!

In one of the comments you mentioned that there are no restrictions in hours or industries for the France WHV. What about contract types? CDD, CDI? If I’m not mistaken we are limited to CDD only, but I may be wrong. Just want to make sure.

Thank you!

Jackson I |

There are no rules against a CDI. You just have to stop working when your work authorization ends (ie resign). Or switch to a difference visa type at that time.

niloo1890 I |

Perfect, thank you!

Sh3r I |

Hi, thank you for the article. For WHV holders, what is the max hours I can work per week and are there any restrictions on the type of jobs or industries I can work in? Thank you!

Jackson I |

Hi there. There are no restrictions in hours or industries for the France WHV 🙂