Discussion: Proof of work

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    Liza 27 ans

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    I'm on Visa Vacances travail France, I found a job and applied for titre de sejour but my visa has ended and my employer asks me to give him a proof that I can work while I'm waiting for my titre de sejour. How can I prove that I can work?


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    Hey,

    The visa vacances travail act as a "titre de sejour" and is one of the visa that don't need to go through the approval of Direccte/ofii, so your employer just need to do a DPAE (pre approval job form) and send it to the URSSAF.

    https://travail-emploi.gouv.fr/IMG/p...a_14738_01.pdf

    They will ask you for your "N° Sécurité sociale" since you probably don't have one. They can put "premier emploi" ("first job") or create a fictive one just to identify you.

    That form needs to be sent 8 days prior to your job starts.

    You can show him this document. (page 5)
    https://circulaires.legifrance.gouv..../cir_39718.pdf

    "2• le VLS-T permet il son titulaire d'entrer, de séjourner et de travailler à titreaccessoire dès son arrivée sur le territoire français."
    Means you can work day 1 when you are in France without any other documents.

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    Salut,
    je pense qu'il te faut faire une Autorisation provisoire de séjour (APS)
    https://www.jurifiable.com/conseil-j...oire-de-sejour

    tu peux te renseigner à la préfecture étranger.

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    Liza 27 ans

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    Message de etolarian
    Hey,

    The visa vacances travail act as a "titre de sejour" and is one of the visa that don't need to go through the approval of Direccte/ofii, so your employer just need to do a DPAE (pre approval job form) and send it to the URSSAF.

    https://travail-emploi.gouv.fr/IMG/p...a_14738_01.pdf

    They will ask you for your "N° Sécurité sociale" since you probably don't have one. They can put "premier emploi" ("first job") or create a fictive one just to identify you.

    That form needs to be sent 8 days prior to your job starts.

    You can show him this document. (page 5)
    https://circulaires.legifrance.gouv..../cir_39718.pdf

    "2• le VLS-T permet il son titulaire d'entrer, de séjourner et de travailler à titreaccessoire dès son arrivée sur le territoire français."
    Means you can work day 1 when you are in France without any other documents.
    Hi,

    Thank you very much for your answer.

    I think it's very clear, but do you know if the same rules apply if I am from Russia?

    I heard that procedure might be different.

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    The document is for the Canada-France agreement but the procedure is the same for you yes.

    Since the russian PVT is for 4 months, you renew it for 12 months with a APS. The APS is the same, it's a paper that gives you the right to work and is a "titre de séjour".

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    Liza 27 ans

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    Message de etolarian
    The document is for the Canada-France agreement but the procedure is the same for you yes.

    Since the russian PVT is for 4 months, you renew it for 12 months with a APS. The APS is the same, it's a paper that gives you the right to work and is a "titre de séjour".
    The problem is I didn't do APS and I applied at Prefecture (in the 17th) and they gave a rendezvous for Cite ( for the end of October) for "titre de sejour".
    My 4 months visa has expired in May and I don't know if I can still apply for APS if I don't have valid visa but only the Convocation for rendezvous in October.
    What can I do in this circumstances?
    Thank you

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    Usually when you go in a prefecture to renew a visa or obtain a "titre de sejour" they give you a paper called "récépissé" ("receipt") if they are asking you to come back later for it. With that paper you can stay/work in France as well. But it depends what kind of "titre de sejour" you are asking. It might be available depending which one you are asking for. I would go back there for sure to have more information.

    Qu'est-ce qu'un récépissé de demande de titre de séjour ? | service-public.fr

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    Liza 27 ans

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    Message de etolarian
    Usually when you go in a prefecture to renew a visa or obtain a "titre de sejour" they give you a paper called "récépissé" ("receipt") if they are asking you to come back later for it. With that paper you can stay/work in France as well. But it depends what kind of "titre de sejour" you are asking. It might be available depending which one you are asking for. I would go back there for sure to have more information.

    Qu'est-ce qu'un récépissé de demande de titre de séjour ? | service-public.fr
    They didn't give me récépissé. Only Convocation

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    Maybe @Marie could help you but I fear that she left for a few days of off...

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    If your visa has expired and you're not eligible for an APS, I'm not sure you still have the right to work in France... It's not possible to change from a WHV to a titre de séjour, as the WHV is a temporary visa that cannot be transformed into anything else in France (rare exceptions I've seen are if someone got married to a French national and applied to stay - but for any kind of transformation to a work visa you need to return to your home country).

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    Message de LizaY
    They didn't give me récépissé. Only Convocation
    Unfortunatly, I don't really have information about that.

    Russians are not in the same position as Canadians.
    For you, the "circulaire" that concerns you is that one : https://expat-elan.fr/images/10-text...CL1130111C.pdf

    In your situation, you should have applied for a "Autorisation Provisoire de Travail" and then for an APS (Autorisation PRovisoire de Séjour). I don't know if you can read French, but the part that concerns you is the Annexe 9.

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    Liza 27 ans

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    Hello,
    Thank you everyone for the answers. As of Friday I got my APS.
    Now my employer is asking for Social Security, as I understand with PVT visa (being Russian) I am not allowed to have Social Security in France. Is that true? If so, what is the insurance I can obtain?
    Thank you