Placement Impact Ltd sérieux ?

[lotof]

Tout d'abord bonjour à tous, cela fait plusieurs mois que je ne suis plus venu (c'est à dire depuis que je n'ai pas eu mon PVT 2008) et suis bien content de vous retrouver tous.

Ensuite je reviens vers vous car, j'ai reçu plusieurs fois des emails de la société Placement Impact Ltd, présidée par Peter Hamond qui me propose des jobs disponibles, sous couvert d'une petite somme de 75,00 Eur . Il précise que cette somme qu'une petite partie de la somme qu'il gagnera puisque c'est l'employeur qui paie l'essentiel de la prestation. j'avais répondu à une annonce parue sur le site Emploi-international.org.


Voici un récap des échanges emails que nous avons eu Qu'en pensez vous ?(à force me contacter il finit par me faire douter, j'ai peut être envie d'essayer de genre de boite vu que je n'ai eu à part un ou deux contacts aucune proposition d'embauche à partir de la france).

Dear Mr Lxxxxi Rxxxx (oui Lxxx Rxxx c'est moi ),
Thank you for your prompt reply, we appreciate and sorry for our late reply
due to the very busy recruiting period (our time is first available for
registered candidates and for Recruiters we are dealing with).
Sorry Sir but we won't be able to activate your resume to our many
US/Canadian Corporate clients without the payment of the small Registration
fee.
We are not selling you a job Sir but an efficient and procative placement
services, this is different!
In the past, we have search and found several interesting Positions for
some overseas candidates who never came: we have wasted our time searching
for nothing and we do not want to it again.
We are getting our placement commission from Employers ONLY WHEN we place a
candidate with them and we don't want to waste our time searching if we
think that our chances are very small.
Our guarantee: we will refund the small cover fees after the activation
period if no position is offered (excepted if the candidate refuse a valid
job offer).
We are a Canadian Recruiting Firm based in Montreal (Partners in Toronto,
Vancouver, Boston, Chicago and in New-York city) and we are in HR field
since 1990.
It takes local employment practice knowledge, contacts, persistence and a
lot of work to find suitable positions in Marketing/Management fields.
We will send your Resume thru Fax (with our Company references) to our many
Corporate Clients and other Recruiters and it cost us more than the small
administrative fees we are asking for (Job search fees, Advertising
fees,.....).
We want to place you quickly because most of our placement fees are covered
by Recruiters each time we place a candidate with them (but less than our
competitors).
Note that the interview will be conducted by employers (on the phone for
the first one) and all informations about the salary and the
accommodation/travel expenses should be discussed during the interview.
If you are still interested by our proactive placements services, please,
hurry because many Companies we are dealing with are now hiring in
Marketing, Management and Export/International business area.
Please, send us a Resume again with the small Registration fee (75 Euro
only with a Visa card/Mastercard/American Express, French check or Western
Union).
A fast and Secure method of payment is with a Visa card/Mastercard/AMEX
thru Email ([email protected] and to [email protected]) or thru
Fax: (450) 656 7116 (both methods are Very Secure): all we need are:
# The Card Number:.....................
# the Expiration Dates: Month and Year.
# the Cardholder's Name: Mr or Ms......................
We will deleted these informations immediately after the payment same day).
If you want to use Western Union/Moneygram services, send us the cover fee
in order to: Mrs Catherine Tran, Account Manager (same address as the
company), to any Western Union/Moneygram Offices in Montreal, Canada (Date
of payment/Transfer number are required).
You can also send us the fee by Electronic Transfer to our Business Bank
(Important: it will cost you 88 Euro due to bank fee for us here): ROYAL
BANK OF CANADA, Succ. Ste-Catherine/Stanley, 1140 Ste-Catherine West, H3B
1H7 Montreal, Qc., Canada.
Company Account Number: 145 4040, Bank N0. 003, Transit: 05101, Swift N0.:
ROYCCAT2.
IBAN Number: 003-1454040-05101.
Payable to: Placement Impact Ltd.
We will send you a confirmation of payment with your personal file number
and further information concerning the process.
Waiting for your prompt confirmation thru email (use both email addresses
please) or thru fax,
Yours Sincerely,
Mr N.Peter Hamond, MBA, HR Manager and Associate
Email (Selected/Registered candidates):
[email protected]/[email protected]
Email (General): [email protected]/[email protected]
https://placementimpact.hrpanel.com (Under construction)
Links to Immigration/Working Visas:
https://www.usimmigrationsupport.org
Phone: (514) 409-2017
Fax: (450) 656-7116
Address:
Placement Impact Ltd, 157 Saint Antoine West street (B.743), Succ. Place
D'Armes, H2Y 3H8, QC., Canada.
PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:

Dear Mr Hamond,
as I apply to dozen of positions you will understand that I could not
afford to spend more than my time to searching for a good job.
Moreover I've applied for an available position, so if it's still available
and if I match your client's criteria I'm going to spend about more than
1000 $ to travel in America and housing during a couples of days, meeting
the employer and paying for your services if it's as serious as description.

Thank you for really considering this as a reply to your last email.
Yours.
Lxxx Rxxxx

2008/5/14 IMPACT LTD, Mr Peter Hamond, HR Manager <[email protected]>:

Ref.: Your Application Letter from April for a paid Internship Position in
Export/International Business fields.
Montreal, Tuesday May 13, 2008
Dear Mr Lxxxx Rxxxxx,
Your Resume is very interesting and we think that several of our many
Corporate Clients in Marketing/Export/International Business area (some of
our Business partners are located in New-York city/L.A/Chicago) would be
interested by your profile as an International Business Consultant or as a
Marketing Assistant Manager (Paid Internship or Contract Position in
2008-2009).
Because it's difficult to get a suitable internship position in
North-America from overseas without any Professional help, as a Successful
Canadian Recruiting Firm (Specializing in Export/International Business
Careers), we have been acting as a proactive business connection between
Candidates and many North-American Recruiters we are dealing with as well
as other companies since 1990.
We will activate and forward your Resume immediately after your
registration to many American and Canadian employers we are working with
(other Companies also) in Export/Marketing/International Business fields
(Export Firms, Logistics Co., Fragrances Co., International Business
Consulting Firms, Designers, Research Institutes, Auditing Consulting
Firms, Hotel Chains/Resorts, Cargo Co., Telecommunication Co., Shipping
Co., Communication/Advertising Firms, Marketing Consulting Firms, Medical
Equipment Co., Management Consulting Firms, Forwarders, Trading Co.,
Airlines, Manufacturing and Industrial Co., Pharmaceutical/Cosmetics
Co.,......).
We will contact our business clients directly and send them your Resume
with References from our HR Consulting Firm, this is important in order to
get a suitable position quickly because most of them are obtained with
business to business relations.
We will also follow-up your resume step by step, checking it regularly,
until you get the most suitable position. This may take a few days/weeks
due to the search and the temporary work permit (if required).
Unlike others Agencies, we won't charge selected candidates on their future
salaries and your Resume will not be in a passive database or in a drawer
(we have already placed many candidates from North-America, Asia,
South-America and Europe: see art. in Canadian Employment Weekly).
Our success is based on prompt and professional customer services coupled
with a belief in long term business relationship.
If you are interested to get a paid internship thru our proactive placement
services, please hurry because the Recruiting process start and many
positions are currently available with our Corporate partners (Export
Assistants-Managers, Export Consultants, Marketing Consultants, Freight
Forwarders, International Business Consultants, Purchasers, Translators,
Marketing Assistants-Managers, Buyers, Logistics Consultants, Risk
Management Consultants, Product Assistants-Managers, Business Development
Consultants,........).
Please, send us a CV again with the small Registration fee to be able to
activate your Resume immediately (new cover fee for foreign candidates: job
search/file's management fees and it will avoid us working for not
motivated or ready to move candidates): Only 75 Euro with a French check,
Visa Card/Mastercard or American Express card (Expiration Date,
Cardholder's name and Card Number are required thru fax or email), Money
order or by Draft payable to our Company.
If you want to use Western Union/Moneygram services, please, send us the
cover fee in order to: Mrs Catherine Tran, Account Manager (same address as
the company), to any Western Union/Moneygram Offices in Montreal, Canada
(Transfer details required by email or fax).
Note that there is no additional fee for selected candidates.
You can also send us the fees by Electronic Transfer to our Business Bank
(Important: it will cost you 88 Euro due to bank fee for us here): ROYAL
BANK OF CANADA, Succ. Ste-Catherine/Stanley, 1140 Ste-Catherine West, H3B
1H7 Montreal, Qc., Canada.
Company Account Number: 145 4040, Bank: 003, Transit: 05101, Swift N0.:
ROYCCAT2.
IBAN Number: 003-1454040-05101.
In order to: Placements Impact Ltd.
We will refund the small cover fee after the activation period if no
position is found (excepted if the candidate refuse a valid job offer).
We will activate your resume immediately to many Recruiters in your
specialization field (Bell International, Principal Financial Group , Pratt
and Whitney Inc., Bombardier Inc., BCE International, Teco Energy Inc.,
Pharmaceutical Product Development Inc., Smith International Inc., Genesco
Inc., Lyondell Chemical Company, Fidelity National Financial Inc., Anadarko
Petroleum Corporation., Alcan Inc., Expressjet Holdings Inc., Cox
Communications Inc., Brinker International Inc., Insight Inc., Bristol
Myers Squibb, Toronto Dominion Bank, York International Corp., Koch
Industries, Johnson Controls Inc., Abbott Laboratories,.....) and we will
send you a confirmation of payment with your personal file number and
further informations concerning the process.
Note that your resume will be activated in our Head Office for 18 months
and the temporary work permit (J-1 Visa: Exchange Trainee Visas to gain
work experience and training in USA) will be provided by Recruiters, not by
candidates.
Concerning the travel/accommodation expenses, several Companies are
covering it.
Average salary: 2900 USD/Month and attractive package.
Yours Sincerely,
Mr Peter Hamond, MBA, HR Manager
Fax: (450) 656-7116
Phone: (514) 409 2017 (for Registered candidates only)
Email (Selected/Registered candidates):
[email protected]/[email protected]
Email (General): [email protected]/[email protected]
https://placementimpact.hrpanel.com (under construction)
Address:
Placements Impact Ltd, 157 Saint Antoine West street (B.743), Succ. Place
D'Armes, H2Y 3H8, QC., Canada.
P.S: Note that there is no additional/extra fees for selected candidates
and any arrangements you may make with employers do not involve us.
Here is a limited listing of some American/Canadian Recruiters in
Marketing/Export/International Business area:
# Sigma Plastics, New Jersey, (HR manager: Mrs Debra Harbour): (201) 933 6...
# Louis Berger Group, New Jersey, (HR Manager: Mr Terry Williams): (973)
678 1...
# KPMG International, NYC, (HR Manager: Mr Colin Holland): (212) 75....
# Abon Industries, San Francisco, (HR Manager: Mrs Doura Dell): (415) 733 4...
# Gillette, Boston, (HR manager: Edward Guillet): (617) 421 7...
# Bayer Inc., Toronto, (V.P: Ron Hui Zhing): (416) 248 0...
# Colgate Palmolive, NYC, (HR Director: Mr Robert J.Joy): (212) 310 2....
# Hyatt, Chicago, (HR Manager: Mr Doug Patrick): (312) 750 1...
# Del Monte Foods, San Francisco, (HR Manager: Mr Nils Loumerin): (415) 247
3....
# Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, NYC, (V.P HR: Mr Martyn Fisher): (212) 492 4...
# A.C.I Worldwide Inc., Toronto, (Manager: Mr Geoff Parker): (416) 813 0...
# International Hi-Tech. Industries Inc., Vancouver, (HR Manager: Mr Roger
Rached): (604) 733 5...
# Conti Group, NYC, (HR Director: Mrs Teresa Mc Caslin): (212) 207 5...
# Celestic International, Toronto, (V.P HR: Mr Anthony Puppi): (416) 448 5...
# Canfor Corporation, Vancouver, (HR Manager: Les Waldies): (604) 661 5...
# Rothmans Inc., Toronto, (V.P HR: Mr Robert Carew): (416) 449 5...
# CIC International, New-York city, (HR Manager: Mr Robert Volvo): (212)
792 1...
# Pfizer, NYC, (V.P HR: Mrs Yvonne Jackson): (212) 573 2...
# Novopharm Ltd, Toronto, (V.P HR: Mr Real Duteau): (416) 291 8...
# Kone Inc., Toronto, (HR Manager: Mr Mike Tominac): (416) 252 6...
# Columbia House, NYC, (V.P HR: Mr Michael Pilnick): (212) 596 2...
# Sky Services Airlines Inc., Toronto, (Manager: Mr William Winkler) (416)
679 5...
# Clear Pacific Trading Ltd, Vancouver, (HR Manager: Jackson Chan): (604)
241 3...
# Sequa, NYC, (HR Manager: Mr Jerre Battino): (212) 986 5...
# Kom International, Montreal, (Director of Personnel: Confidential): (514)
849 4...
# Equity Group Investment, Chicago, (Managing Director: Mr William Pate):
(312) 454 0...
# FMR, Boston, (HR Manager: Mr Guy Patton): (617) 563 7...
# AMM Manufacturing Ltd , Vancouver, (Partner: Mr Andrew Markicevic): (604)
530 9...
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and we will send your Resume (with our Company References) to many more
North-American Companies.
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PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE:

Dear sirs,
>
> After the publication of some availables positions in NYC, I would like to
>considered for a maketing job. You will find my enclosed resume in the
>attached file and I'm of course looking forward to hear from you.
>
> Kinds regards,
>--
>LXXX RXXXX
>Tel : +33.6XX3.1XX.8XX
>Fax : +33.4XX.5XX.5XXX Content-Type: application/pdf; name="2008
>Resume.pdf"

Désolé d'être aussi long c juste pour être plus précis.
J'avais déja pensé à passer pour des établissements de placement, juste que je voudrais être sur d'avoir des chances de décrocher des entretiens téléphoniques avec de vrais patrons.

merci de votre aide.

[lvlatthieu]

En tout cas, c'est une pratique que je n'ai jamais vu en France. Les cabinets de chasseurs de tête sont payés par les employeurs potentiels, pas par les "candidats". Et ce sont des pratiques qu'on ne voit que pour des postes importants.
Et trouver ce genre de poste sans première expérience canadienne, il semble que c'est difficile. Même les pires ss2i en France ne font pas payer les candidats pour les placer.
Enfin bref, mon avis -français- sur cette pratique est que ça pue l'arnaque. (un peu comme certaines "agences immobilières" en France qui te font payer pour obtenir une liste d'adresses souvent périmées)

Tu as raison de te renseigner avant de payer et j'espère que qqun pourra t'apporter une réponse un peu plus pertinente que la mienne.


Edit: après une petite recherche sur le web, j'ai trouvé ce thread qui reprend un peu ta question: https://www.expatforum.com/expats/ca...nt-agency.html

Ca confirme un peu ce que je pensais, ça pue l'arnaque...

[TimBit]

J'ai jamais payé d'agences ici au Canada non plus, ça pue l'arnaque ton truc!

[Danoc]

Il est vrai que le coup d'envoyer ses coordonnées bancaires et de l'argent sur un simple mail non sécurisé à une personne inconnue dont l'adresse est un @aol.com, ça fait très louche, surtout quand la personne avoue que sa société est censée être en activité depuis... 1990!!!

[ludoneuf]

un conseil....

oublie ca !! lol

[Anonyme]

C'est clair, ça sent l'arnaque à plein nez ce truc...

[clikan]

C'est une arnaque à la "nigériane", sauf que là, c'est pas pour toucher un héritage de plusieurs milliards de dollars!
Comme par hasard, leur site web est en construction, donc pas moyen de vérifier l'existence de la société + email @aol très bizarre + payer pour avoir un job, etc....
J'ai déjà reçu un mail une fois concernant une proposition d'immigration au Canada avec des adresses mails sensées être de l'ambassade mais sur yahoo!
Bref un seul conseil: supprimer tous ces mails et ne plus y répondre

[lotof]

OK merci je crois que c'est clair comme signal affaire classé....n'empêche que c'est tentant !

[Gifted]

Tout d'abord bonjour à tous, cela fait plusieurs mois que je ne suis plus venu (c'est à dire depuis que je n'ai pas eu mon PVT 2008) et suis bien content de vous retrouver tous.

Ensuite je reviens vers vous car, j'ai reçu plusieurs fois des emails de la société Placement Impact Ltd, présidée par Peter Hamond qui me propose des jobs disponibles, sous couvert d'une petite somme de 75,00 Eur . Il précise que cette somme qu'une petite partie de la somme qu'il gagnera puisque c'est l'employeur qui paie l'essentiel de la prestation. j'avais répondu à une annonce parue sur le site Emploi-international.org.


Voici un récap des échanges emails que nous avons eu Qu'en pensez vous ?(à force me contacter il finit par me faire douter, j'ai peut être envie d'essayer de genre de boite vu que je n'ai eu à part un ou deux contacts aucune proposition d'embauche à partir de la france).



Désolé d'être aussi long c juste pour être plus précis.
J'avais déja pensé à passer pour des établissements de placement, juste que je voudrais être sur d'avoir des chances de décrocher des entretiens téléphoniques avec de vrais patrons.

merci de votre aide.

Hello,

juste confirme que cela en est une: ARNAQUE
J'etaiss a montreal de fin janvier a mi Fevrier 2008.
Je me suis rendu a l'adresse qui se trouve etre un voite postale a la POSTE!!!!!

en face de l hopital Chinois j'ai oublie le nom du metro

Carine