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    Bien que je ne veuille pas rencontrer de francais au Canada afin de ne parler qu'anglais et que je ne participe pas au forum, j'y ai neanmoins utilise quelques astuces. Pour recevoir il faut donner comme dit l'autre, alors en guise de remerciement j'ai trouve qu'il ete peut etre interessant de fournir quelques brides d'informations que j'ai tire de ma lecture a Indigo de la revue Canadian Business (Sept 25 - Oct 6 / CA$ 4.25) et de l'article: The fifth annual ranking of the best cities for business. Tout un programme !


    Le classement general:

    Best cities for business

    1 Quebec City 73.1
    2 Charlottetown, PEI 69.4
    3 Saguenay, Que 70
    4 Laval, Que 79.5
    5 St John's, Nfld 63.8
    6 Saint John, NB 67.4
    7 Edmonton 73.7
    8 Markham, Ont 84.3
    9 Halifax 74.9
    10 Sherbrooke, Que 63.4
    12 Ottawa 83.3
    31 Vancouver 98.3
    34 Calgary 82.8
    37 Toronto 100
    38 Montreal 86.8
    40 Victoria 83.1

    Le nombre a cote de chaque ville est le Cost Living (Dans l'article il y a d'autres parametres)


    Lowest Business Operating Costs

    Saguenay, Que
    Charlottetown, PEI
    Sherbrooke, Que
    St John's, Nfld
    Halifax


    Lowest Cost of Living

    Sherbrooke, Que
    St John's, Nfld
    Moncton, NB
    Saint John, NB
    Cape Breton, NS


    Highest Building Growth

    Quebec City, Que
    Edmonton
    Laval, Que
    Richmond, BC
    Markham, Ont


    Biggest Drop In Unemployment Rate

    Ottawa, Ont
    Quebec City, Que
    Greater Vancouver (includes vancouver, Richmond, Surrey and Burnaby)
    Laval, Que
    Kitchener-Waterloo, Ont


    Lower Crime Rate

    Markham / Vaughan, Ont
    Mississauga / Brampton, Ont
    Burlington, Ont
    Saguenay, Que
    Charlottetown, PEI



    L'article parle de la ville Victoria en disant que c'est nice mais plutot pour les retraites. Ils disent aussi que c'est la pire des 40 villes analysees au niveau de la criminalite. L'annee derniere one crime for every five people living there, nearly three times that of Toronto. Cette annee c'est un peu mieux mais toujours l'un des taux les plus eleves du pays.


    Un passage de l'article:

    - Engineers and computer experts ? Kitchener-Waterloo is filled with them.
    - Need Biotech researchers ? Head to Montreal
    - Want to be close to montains and the sea ? try Vancouver
    - As for access to capital, Toronto may be the financial hub of the country, but Calgary, Vancouver and other western cities are still booming.

    Quebec City est en plein boom

    While many in Montreal still dismiss it as "le gros village" - a gouvernment town, ancient, haughty, but ultimately benign - corporate Canada is viewing the "vieille capitale" with fresh eyes. Calgary has the oil, Toronto has the stock market and the Maritimes are cheap, but Quebec City trumps them all in the fifth annual Canadian Bussiness survey of the best cities to set up shop.
    Voila, je ne pensais pas que Quebec City explosait autant. D'ailleurs toute l'economie du Quebec reprend severement. Quand je vois Toronto qui pousse dans tous les sens et que ce n'est meme pas la ville qui se developpe le plus dans le pays... ca laisse imaginer la croissance canadienne.

    Je ne compte pas aller sur les terres francophones pour la langue justement mais j'ai deja dans le passe ete a Montreal qui m'avait tant marque a l'epoque et Quebec City et je dois dire apres feuilletage du magazine que pour une famille ou un couple (ou meme un celibataire why not) qui projette de monter un petit quelque chose (ou travailler) dans une belle ville chaleureuse Quebec City m'a l'air tout indique (l'article mentionnait notamment l'aspect historique et culturel a l'europeene de la ville qui etait un plus enorme). Enfin de mon avis.

    Donc comme je l'ai dit ce sont des brides, je n'ai pas achete le magazine, seulement "un peu" recopie. C'est juste pour situer un peu les villes. L'article parle egalement des meilleurs endroits pour installer ses bureaux mais c'est deja du business plus lourd, comparaison avec les villes US egalement. Si le sujet vous interesse je vous conseille d'aller l'acheter et en general, si vous compter ouvrir un commerce ou monter une boite, de surveiller et eplucher l'etalage business des bookstores. Il y a toujours des dossiers economiques qui meme si ils correspondent pas directement a ce que vous comptez faire, permettent d'avoir quelques reperes. C'est toujours ca de pris.

    Voila !

    PS: Sorry pour les accents.

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    Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces infos qui pourront certainement être utiles

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    Merci pour ton article. Ce magazine est vendu partout au canada?
    Dommage que t'es pas traduit certains mot lol.


    Message de Hartigan
    Bien que je ne veuille pas rencontrer de francais au Canada afin de ne parler qu'anglais et que je ne participe pas au forum, j'y ai neanmoins utilise quelques astuces. Pour recevoir il faut donner comme dit l'autre, alors en guise de remerciement j'ai trouve qu'il ete peut etre interessant de fournir quelques brides d'informations que j'ai tire de ma lecture a Indigo de la revue Canadian Business (Sept 25 - Oct 6 / CA$ 4.25) et de l'article: The fifth annual ranking of the best cities for business. Tout un programme !


    Le classement general:

    Best cities for business

    1 Quebec City 73.1
    2 Charlottetown, PEI 69.4
    3 Saguenay, Que 70
    4 Laval, Que 79.5
    5 St John's, Nfld 63.8
    6 Saint John, NB 67.4
    7 Edmonton 73.7
    8 Markham, Ont 84.3
    9 Halifax 74.9
    10 Sherbrooke, Que 63.4
    12 Ottawa 83.3
    31 Vancouver 98.3
    34 Calgary 82.8
    37 Toronto 100
    38 Montreal 86.8
    40 Victoria 83.1

    Le nombre a cote de chaque ville est le Cost Living (Dans l'article il y a d'autres parametres)


    Lowest Business Operating Costs

    Saguenay, Que
    Charlottetown, PEI
    Sherbrooke, Que
    St John's, Nfld
    Halifax


    Lowest Cost of Living

    Sherbrooke, Que
    St John's, Nfld
    Moncton, NB
    Saint John, NB
    Cape Breton, NS


    Highest Building Growth

    Quebec City, Que
    Edmonton
    Laval, Que
    Richmond, BC
    Markham, Ont


    Biggest Drop In Unemployment Rate

    Ottawa, Ont
    Quebec City, Que
    Greater Vancouver (includes vancouver, Richmond, Surrey and Burnaby)
    Laval, Que
    Kitchener-Waterloo, Ont


    Lower Crime Rate

    Markham / Vaughan, Ont
    Mississauga / Brampton, Ont
    Burlington, Ont
    Saguenay, Que
    Charlottetown, PEI



    L'article parle de la ville Victoria en disant que c'est nice mais plutot pour les retraites. Ils disent aussi que c'est la pire des 40 villes analysees au niveau de la criminalite. L'annee derniere one crime for every five people living there, nearly three times that of Toronto. Cette annee c'est un peu mieux mais toujours l'un des taux les plus eleves du pays.


    Un passage de l'article:




    Quebec City est en plein boom



    Voila, je ne pensais pas que Quebec City explosait autant. D'ailleurs toute l'economie du Quebec reprend severement. Quand je vois Toronto qui pousse dans tous les sens et que ce n'est meme pas la ville qui se developpe le plus dans le pays... ca laisse imaginer la croissance canadienne.

    Je ne compte pas aller sur les terres francophones pour la langue justement mais j'ai deja dans le passe ete a Montreal qui m'avait tant marque a l'epoque et Quebec City et je dois dire apres feuilletage du magazine que pour une famille ou un couple (ou meme un celibataire why not) qui projette de monter un petit quelque chose (ou travailler) dans une belle ville chaleureuse Quebec City m'a l'air tout indique (l'article mentionnait notamment l'aspect historique et culturel a l'europeene de la ville qui etait un plus enorme). Enfin de mon avis.

    Donc comme je l'ai dit ce sont des brides, je n'ai pas achete le magazine, seulement "un peu" recopie. C'est juste pour situer un peu les villes. L'article parle egalement des meilleurs endroits pour installer ses bureaux mais c'est deja du business plus lourd, comparaison avec les villes US egalement. Si le sujet vous interesse je vous conseille d'aller l'acheter et en general, si vous compter ouvrir un commerce ou monter une boite, de surveiller et eplucher l'etalage business des bookstores. Il y a toujours des dossiers economiques qui meme si ils correspondent pas directement a ce que vous comptez faire, permettent d'avoir quelques reperes. C'est toujours ca de pris.

    Voila !

    PS: Sorry pour les accents.

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    merci pour cet article qui va être utile

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    yep c'est clair, merci bien, très instructif!!!
    je tombe des nues pour victoria quand même...

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    Message de Miss voyage
    Merci pour ton article. Ce magazine est vendu partout au canada?
    Dommage que t'es pas traduit certains mot lol.
    Allez, faut bosser son anglais !

    Moi aussi je suis tombe des nues pour Victoria. Mon colloc canadien qui y a vecu aussi.

    Je suis tombe par hasard sur un article qui reprend mot pour mot des phrases de la revue:
    https://ca.pfinance.yahoo.com/ca_fin...ness-in-canada


    The best places to do business in Canada
    Andy Holloway
    Wednesday, October 11, 2006

    Calgary. Cowtown. Canada's city of the future. Toronto. Hogtown. Canada's city of the past. That's the prevailing wisdom, and it's not hard to see what it's based on. Toronto was (and still is) Canada's most prominent city, but it's a town that's been a little down as of late. For the better part of a decade, commercial development stagnated in the core, as companies looked to the suburbs for cheaper land, more modern buildings and better access to the airport, while drawing from the same labour pool and cultural amenities.

    Meanwhile, two time zones and about 3,434 kilometres west, rising oil prices have put Calgary in the midst of this century's version of the Gold Rush. GDP is expected to grow by 6.6% this year, topping last year's sizzling 5.7% growth, according to a new forecast by the Conference Board of Canada. Employment is expected to jump 7%, with the goods sector alone adding 29,500 new jobs - that's equivalent to the population of the entire territory of Nunavut. The robust economy also handed out a few unexpected windfalls. (Moosehead Breweries Ltd., based in Saint John, N.B., reports beer sales have jumped in Cowtown - even though Moosehead hasn't changed its marketing or distribution efforts. Must be all the Maritimers moving out west.)



    Business in Calgary is indeed booming. But take a closer look. Calgary, for all its new-found energy and success, is starting to resemble Toronto. It's a victim of urban sprawl, a provincial government that doesn't know how to harness the city's growth and a tough corporate climate. The vacancy rate for top-notch office space downtown is now a paltry 0.6% - effectively zero, for a business of any size hoping to move in immediately, even if it can afford the rent or find qualified workers. Sure, it's probably better to be moaning about a lack of labour and office space than the reverse, but over the long run those shortages will hurt the city, as costs rise and businesses move to more hassle-free environs.

    A quick glance at Canadian Business's fifth annual ranking of the best cities to do business shows Calgary's time is already up in some respects. Hit by rising business and living costs, a lack of new commercial buildings and a tight labour market, Calgary dropped to 34th on the 40-city list. Last year, Calgary finished 18th, a pretty decent showing for one of the larger and more expensive cities to operate a business in Canada. This year's ranking used slightly different weighting factors to reflect data collected from Canadian Business readers. That, along with renewed corporate development, helped Toronto, last year's cellar dweller, move up to 37th.

    Both cities pale in comparison to Quebec City, which experienced the biggest growth in corporate building permits and second-highest decline in unemployment rate. Combine that with Quebec's historically low operating and living costs, and crime rates, and it puts the province's capital city on top. That probably comes as a surprise to many, but there's more going on in the self-proclaimed French-speaking capitale nationale of Canada's distinct society than preparing to celebrate the 400th anniversary of its settlement.

    Let's be clear. Calgary is the country's most thriving economy. Yet for all the growth opportunities it offers, Calgary might not be the best place for a business thinking of making a move. Consider: the average net rent for downtown Class A office space has jumped to $40.12 per square foot, nearly double the going rate of $23.50 a year ago. (Just two years ago, the vacancy rate was a healthy 9% with an average rent of $18.54.)

    The demand has led to an unprecedented office construction boom. By 2010, up to seven million square feet of new office space will be built downtown. But even that won't solve the shortage. Turns out six of the seven buildings currently under construction are already leased, and the space the tenants are coming out of has also been leased.

    "The [Calgary] market has turned pretty quickly in the way of diminished space," says Raymond Wong, national director of research at CB Richard Ellis Ltd., in Toronto. "It's a problem, unless you can consider alternative space, such as renovated industrial or retail space. But even the industrial and retail markets are facing low vacancy rates in Calgary. At a 0.6 vacancy rate, there are basically no options in the marketplace." That's forcing some industrial companies hoping to cash in on Alberta's boom to consider cities outside Calgary, such as Balzac and Airdrie, or moving to Edmonton.

    Despite the rising cost of living - the price of a new house in Calgary has risen 56% in the past 12 months - people are moving there from outside the province in record numbers, some 25,000 a year. There are plenty of decent jobs to choose from, which is good for employees but not so good for employers. How long can companies pay $20 an hour for mere service jobs, let alone much higher rates for more skilled labour? "When it's going to hit the fan is when salaries become so high that some industries will lose their competitiveness in a significant way," says Mario Lefebvre, director of the Metropolitan Outlook Service at the Conference Board of Canada. The other derailer is if rising cost of living outpaces salary gains. Calgary is holding strong so far, but there could be future trouble if labour and building shortages continue.

    No doubt, Calgary's place near the bottom of this Canadian Business ranking will surprise many - and anger the locals. Inevitably, those cities that finish at or near the bottom always complain. Hello, Victoria. Victoria is certainly a nice place to live - and an even better place to retire - but it comes up short in almost every category. It's one of Canada's more expensive cities to live and work. Labour is in short supply. But what really sets Victoria back is its crime rate, which is the worst of the 40 cities analyzed. Last year there was one crime for every five people living there, a rate that's nearly three times that of Toronto. Victoria officials point out the region's crime rate is much lower, but even that rate of 10,810 per 100,000 is one of the highest in the country.

    Still, it's not all bad in the Garden City. Commercial development may have tailed off from last year's record-setting pace, but it remains strong, with work set to begin on the $300-million Neptune Canada project, a cable-linked sea-floor observatory, and a proposed retrofitting of the old Bay building downtown. Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased by a solid 3.7% last year, and is expected to be 3.3% this year, according to the Conference Board of Canada. Nice - but not enough to bump Victoria off the bottom.

    Before the howls of outrage start emanating from the city of newlyweds and nearly deads, let's take a look at what is and isn't included in this survey. The cities selected for the Canadian Business survey include the country's 25 largest cities, plus 15 smaller cities (for regional representation). We ranked them on five factors reflecting socio-economic health: the variable operating costs of doing business, the cost of living, non-residential permits, and unemployment and crime rates. The final ranking weights each factor based on a Canadian Business online survey of roughly 900 readers, rating the importance of the five criteria.

    Variable operating costs were compiled by the Boyd Co., a relocation consultant in Princeton, N.J., based on information residing in BizCosts, the firm's proprietary databank. Those costs include: payroll and benefits (current to Q3 2006), which are based on a representative mix of 350 corporate office, technical and administrative support personnel; the amortization over 25 years of the construction costs on a 60,000-square-foot mid-rise office space; local average property taxes and electric power costs; and travel costs. Equipment acquisition costs and relocation expenses were held constant in the analysis, as these costs were not assumed to vary significantly by geography. Boyd also calculated the cost-of-living index, using Toronto as a baseline of 100.

    Unemployment rates (year over year as of June 30) and number of building permits (first six months, 2006 versus 2005) come from Statistics Canada and local governments. The crime rate figures for 2005 come from the Uniform Crime Reporting Survey, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics and Statistics Canada.

    The study does not address balance-sheet-related issues, such as income tax and government incentives, as they are company-specific. Nor does it tackle such topics as access to capital, quality of the local workforce or lifestyle issues, all of which are also important considerations for a business looking to move or to open a new division. The latter two metrics are highly dependent on what exactly a business is looking for. Want engineers and computer experts? Kitchener-Waterloo is filled with them. Need biotech researchers? Head to Montreal. Want to be close to mountains and the sea? Try Vancouver. As for access to capital, Toronto may be the financial hub of the country, but Calgary, Vancouver and other western cities are still booming. Having your banker a block or so away isn't as important as it once was.

    The good news, however, is that all 40 of the Canadian cities examined compare favourably with a selection of U.S. counterparts when it comes to operating costs. "There's a misconception that the run-up in the Canadian dollar has made Canada prohibitively expensive," says John Boyd, president of Boyd Co., which has been helping relocate companies for more than 30 years. "But Canada still is a very compelling location from an operating-costs standpoint, and much of that lies in labour cost savings." Boyd adds that Canada as a country is rich in energy, relatively insulated from natural disasters and safer than the U.S.

    Those advantages should be driving expansion, but interestingly, corporate Canada is also attracting foreign takeover bids. By mid-August, foreign firms bought 34 Canadian companies, in deals worth $62.3 billion - nearly 4% of the country's market value. Cities now have to figure out a way to nurture the next generation of corporate Canada - that, or risk devolving into a branch plant economy.


    Bon, est-ce que je vais a Calgary ?... C'est la grande question.

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    je ne sais pas si je suis dans la bonne discution mais c est business
    Je me demandais si il y a des aides sur Montreal pour les francais qui veulent ouvrir leur business ( restaurant) car on a pas de marge de credit en PVT
    Avez vous des infos ou des references a me donner
    merci

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    Je cherche des informations concernant divers organismes qui peuvent nous aider a lancer notre entreprise au Canada . J ai l opportunité de peut-etre m associer afin de reprendre un restaurant . J aimerais savoir si d autre on vécu un cas similaire et me referer des organismes ou autres
    merci a tous