Peut-on visiter d'autres pays avant d'arriver en France avec un PVT 3D ?

23/02/24, 10:38

Hello,

Je ne suis pas certaine que tu puisses être dans l'espace Schengen avant la date émise de ton visa dans ton passeport. À moins que tu l'as quitte et que tu rerentres dedans à la date du début de ton visa.

1- Tu peux mentir dans ta lettre

Pas besoin de dire exactement ce que tu vas faire, personne va aller vérifier. Dis simplement que tu souhaites t'immerger dans la culture française et pouvoir avoir une expérience de travail à l'étranger.

2- Il faut normalement postuler 3 mois avant. Novembre semble peut-être trop tôt. À savoir que tu dois choisir une date précise de ton départ et ce n'est pas comme les Français qui viennent au Canada. Tu ne passeras pas par l'immigration pour obtenir ton visa, tu l'auras déjà dans ton passeport.

3- Tu sais écrire que tu veux voyager en France simplement. As-tu pensé à regarder les autres PVT ? Par exemple, celui en Allemagne se demande directement sur le territoire. Et honnêtement, pour 6 semaines en France, c'est très peu. Ça serait dommage si un jour tu souhaites réellement venir en France pour y vivre/travailler/voyager.

As-tu regardé les visas touristes ? de + de 90 jours ?

23/02/24, 10:38

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25/02/24, 21:34

Message de MeghBou

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Thank you Meghan! In that case would you say by best course of action is to just enter through France in the first place? That way my story is straight and, since you’re allowed to travel around the Shengen on a 3D, there shouldn’t be an issue if I leave for Italy a few days later? I’m fine to sacrifice some € and a day or two if it means I don’t have to completely lie about my plans during my application, so that there isn’t a chance of being rejected.

26/02/24, 10:29

Message de AustinT

Thank you Meghan! In that case would you say by best course of action is to just enter through France in the first place? That way my story is straight and, since you’re allowed to travel around the Shengen on a 3D, there shouldn’t be an issue if I leave for Italy a few days later? I’m fine to sacrifice some € and a day or two if it means I don’t have to completely lie about my plans during my application, so that there isn’t a chance of being rejected.

yes, I think you should enter through France first (with your WHV as well) and after, you could start your trip in Europe.
So, you start your application in November (or maybe October) to get your WHV for a departure in February.

15/03/24, 16:09

Thanks Meghan. I’ve thought of another scenario that could also complicate things… Is it possible that other Shengen Zone (SZ) countries would not recognize the 3D PVT? Say, if I had spent 60 days in SZ countries then 30 days in France, and I tried to enter another SZ country after that would they see that as spending >90 days in the SZ?

A workaround that I’ve thought of is to make it so I don’t enter another SZ country until 180 days since my original arrival in the SZ (eg. 3 months in SZ + 3 months in Eastern Europe and France with PVT), so there isn’t any possibility of overstaying the 90 days because I have the PVT to cover my time in France until the SZ clock resets.

Does this make sense? I would hope that other countries recognize the 3D PVT but I could understand why they wouldn’t. Then again I feel like they should?? Very confused. Thanks!

18/03/24, 08:51

Message de AustinT

Thanks Meghan. I’ve thought of another scenario that could also complicate things… Is it possible that other Shengen Zone (SZ) countries would not recognize the 3D PVT? Say, if I had spent 60 days in SZ countries then 30 days in France, and I tried to enter another SZ country after that would they see that as spending >90 days in the SZ?

A workaround that I’ve thought of is to make it so I don’t enter another SZ country until 180 days since my original arrival in the SZ (eg. 3 months in SZ + 3 months in Eastern Europe and France with PVT), so there isn’t any possibility of overstaying the 90 days because I have the PVT to cover my time in France until the SZ clock resets.

Does this make sense? I would hope that other countries recognize the 3D PVT but I could understand why they wouldn’t. Then again I feel like they should?? Very confused. Thanks!

No, you're 90 days doesn't count in France if you have your WHV for France.
It does in the other countries.
I've just arrived from Croatia, they look at my visa AND my autorisation provisoire de séjour and it was all good. They said : « she has a visa for France, so she can move around the Schengen Zone ».